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Post by Jie on Dec 19, 2015 11:57:02 GMT
I think we do need another winger unless Memphis improves drastically. I agree we need another player to score goals but there's not much point having him if we can't find him. Our right wing is weak in terms of creating and our left isn't much better. A couple of chances a game is no where near good enough. A little late on the subject but Lingard and Januzaj would do if they play to their strengths
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Post by spens1 on Dec 20, 2015 9:00:48 GMT
In terms of sales, we need to get rid of that donkey fellaini (let moyes take him since he loves him so much), maybe young if we aren't using him, Carrick (not good enough anymore), Rooney potentially (if the fee is right, nowhere near good enough to warrant the wages he is on) and basically any other deadwood or overpaid player as well as any egomaniacs, no matter how talented (looking directly at Depay on this one, if he doesn't pull it together sell him)
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Post by Red Or Dead on Dec 20, 2015 9:23:39 GMT
The whole team has to go so Spens?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 10:34:08 GMT
Sell Memphis after one season... makes sense. Can't disagree with the other ones even though I still think Rooney will be of use as part of the squad and in a different setup.
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Post by matt on Dec 20, 2015 14:26:14 GMT
There isn't one player I would sell for sure. Not even Rooney or Fellaini, because we know that both can have major impact if played in the right system with the right set of mind. Last year, Rooney and Fellaini were part of the team that reached the top 4, with Young and Mata. And yet, those must be the biggest underperformers this season.
Something is broken and needs fixing. Let's see what LVG can do, or what the next manager can do or want to do before thinking of selling anyone. If anything, we need a few more players. If Mourinho comes in, you'd be surprise to see what kind of team he could line up and how it would benefit some underperforming players.
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Post by Dave on Dec 20, 2015 14:53:33 GMT
LVG has pretty much cleared the 'deadwood' as far as I'm concerned, our squad is pretty thin as it is so we need to add rather than sell.
Young is the only one I don't really see a place for, he's never really been good enough as a winger for us and he's not a fullback, I'd rather give his games to Lingard/Periera. Carrick, Rooney, Fellaini etc. can be good squad players, Fellaini has his uses, Carrick and Rooney have underperformed but the former hasn't got long left as it is and Rooney will be hard to shift even if we wanted to.
I can see where Spens is coming from on Memphis but I think the penny has dropped for him, he's been working much harder and doing his bit defensively lately. Still remains a player with huge potential and he can handle the stage, no doubt about that.
As Matt said it also depends who the manager is, if it is Mourinho for example, we can say goodbye to Mata and Rooney I doubt would be going anywhere since he tried to bring him to Chelsea.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 15:29:08 GMT
On the striker front we could do a lot worse than taking a punt on Ighalo. Reckon he wouldn't cost a bomb and he's got the attributes we require as well as being premier league ready.
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Post by matt on Dec 20, 2015 15:57:36 GMT
if it is Mourinho for example, we can say goodbye to Mata and Rooney I doubt would be going anywhere since he tried to bring him to Chelsea. Yeah, but a part of me thinks Rooney would get going again under someone like Mourinho. I believe Mourinho, for all his antics and provocation, can turn some players into beast. I would expect Smalling, Jones, Schneiderlin, Herrera, etc. to become amazing players in a team led by Mourinho. Not that they aren't now, but I think they would improve even further. But as you said, players in the mould of Mata would get little chance. Mourinho likes to have powerful players, who above all offer hard work, pace, directness and that winning attitude (unlike LVG who favorises extreme tactical discipline above anything else). Mourinho wants players who will stand their ground every game, every minute, no matter if they aren't of the highest quality as long as they don't get beaten in their challenges, as long as they literally die on the pitch for the cause. That's something I respect. But I would fear for Mata, Blind, even Darmian who all look too soft as they don't quite fit the Mourinho profile and usual set up. That's why it never worked that well with Hazard who despite all his quality never showed the aggressivity Mourinho requires. Well, no point debating too much since no one knows what will happen. But to be honest, I am not completely against Mourinho. I am well aware of all the bad things he could bring. But somehow I would fancy him to turn us into a winning machine, giving players more confidence, with a lot more directness, with a bit more of a counter-attacking profile, which imo suits the players we have much better. I was glad with the possession dimension I was sure LVG would bring in, but not at the expense of direct and aggressive attacking: LVG has lost himself in his own philosophy imo.
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Post by Dave on Dec 20, 2015 18:39:25 GMT
Aye, maybe but this is starting to get off topic. We shouldn't be selling anyone in Jan.
So back to Jan, LVG is likely to still be here and if he's going to turn it around he needs goals so a striker is a must and an attacker.
Soton aren't in great form at the moment so might be a good time for us to strike for Mane, regardless of his current form he's got the pace and creativity we are lacking and will bring a spark that we desperately need.
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Post by spens1 on Dec 21, 2015 0:29:29 GMT
The whole team has to go so Spens? just the shit ones (e.g. even though Mata has been underperforming, clearly not his fault because no way Mata could possibly perform in this dour system)
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Post by spens1 on Dec 21, 2015 0:30:51 GMT
Sell Memphis after one season... makes sense. Can't disagree with the other ones even though I still think Rooney will be of use as part of the squad and in a different setup. not necessarily sell, maybe loan him out if he continues to be an imbecile on the pitch (i can't remember a more frustrating player to watch, because he could be amazing if he didn't insist of trying to be a 25 year old ronaldo and failing at it miserably)
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Post by spens1 on Dec 21, 2015 0:34:24 GMT
On the striker front we could do a lot worse than taking a punt on Ighalo. Reckon he wouldn't cost a bomb and he's got the attributes we require as well as being premier league ready. At the very worst, next season he's a good backup to bring off the bench
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Post by Red Or Dead on Dec 21, 2015 11:32:10 GMT
According to Sky Sports website ourselves and Spurs are preparing to offer €41m for Mahrez, report from Telefoot.
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Post by spens1 on Dec 21, 2015 11:39:51 GMT
According to Sky Sports website ourselves and Spurs are preparing to offer €41m for Mahrez, report from Telefoot. bit much i mean for that money, or a bit more, you could get something great
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Post by Dave on Dec 21, 2015 12:37:28 GMT
Like who?
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