Louis van Gaal

Exactly, and the explanations for not using them are a bit baffling. Rooney the Protector (high level of energy, toughness and what more, long passing? Herrera possess all of this, plus is a better short range passer and tackler from what I saw. He also likes to move into space immediately after short pass to a team mate which is part of the quick ball moving style tempo thing. Maybe Louie doesn't like this about him, the freestyle behavior? It sounds ridiculous what I just said but what if???

Yeah. I don't know if he sees the real issue the same as some of us do regarding our slow tempo which comes mainly from players being fixed strictly into their positions and lack of urgency and off the ball movements. If he does, it's just strange to me that he doesn't play Herrera more often because he is one of the few players who offers exactly this. Our play would be at least a bit more fluid, allowing our creative players to express themselves to their full capacity. But that doesn't happening for some reason, it's most certainly partly because of no real central midfielders required for executing such game plan.

Surely, Rooney offers something there but it's not good enough as we saw it so maybe he should try something different, I don't know, revert to a 352 (don't shoot me) but play Blind-Herrera-di Maria as a central midfield trio, work on their chemistry, composure and practice triangles. That's important part of any possession based football to be effective.

Possession without penetration is a waste and it's painful to watch. Fair enough, that could work for some time and against some sides but what will happen when we got found out in everything we do on the pitch?

Some of our tactics has been found out and neutralized and we've been unable to adapt on those new conditions. Throwing players like Fellaini up front to fix our creative ineptness is a move out of despair as I see it, not as a result of some tactical brilliance towards improving the whole image.

It's just unbelievable how almost all of them, regardless of the position on the pitch doesn't showing that urgency, willingness and what not to execute simple things and are shit scared of being pressed. I think it's partly due to lack of self confidence and lack of trust in their team mates and their mental state. When a professional footballer who plays for such a big club can't be arsed to move his butt a bit, to pick out available player without mishit a simple short pass and can't receive the fecking ball without cocking it up with his clumsy legs, it must be due to mindset and lack of trust all round. I just can't get my head around some of the claims it's due to formations, tactical instructions, rainy days and 6 months long nights at Iceland etc!

... In a 4-3-3. That's what I'd do too, at least we'd be playing to some of our main strengths with these players. Blind-Herrera combo as a sole are lightweight indeed, but we could bypass that too maybe if they practice together, isolated from the others for about an hour on a daily basis. They'd need to know each other inside out, when and how each of them acts and move and what's the plan B.

Just look at some central midfields of some top teams. Not all of them have a classic destroyer or a nasty bastard but they are able to pass and move. I'm saying, maybe try to find some of that chemistry between three of them and the rest will follow naturally. The problem is, none of them wants to take just a bit of responsibility and show some balls, what's the real reason for this no one knows for sure. They have ability no doubt, it's just about finding a way to execute it effectively.

Scholes at it again and Van Gaal basically saying "I don't give a fuck" - www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/louis-van-gaal-paul-scholes-8641771


Also Van Gaal saying: 'I have played five or six systems and I'm still looking for the balance.

'But results and the defensive organisation are not bad and we're scoring lots of goals.

'We have to do it now and normally you have to do it in pre-season.'
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2952478/Louis-van-Gaal-admits-no-closer-finding-Manchester-United-s-best-formation-seven-months-charge.html

Pretty much what we all knew, he was limited in his choice for a formation half of the season because of injuries and now that he has an almost full squad it's difficult to have a place for everyone and have a balance.

I don't mind Scholesy pointing out the bleeding obvious but it is just that, the bleeding obvious. My beef with the bulk of these player turned pundit cunts (for the most part) is the complete lack of context and analysis that goes with the observation, with the exception of Gary Nev, they are all predominantly sheepscunts.

it will get under his skin the way things are but VG knows where he's going and what the end point is.

I know none of us really have a clue about VGs dream tactics and formation but it is looking like he's going for the Barça type possession game.
Just as a matter of curiosity, if this is his ultimate game plan how would we feel about it? The reason I'm asking is because I've heard over the last few seasons on the forum from quite a lot of members that the Barça system bores the tits off them but now all of a sudden people are really excited because it could be where Manchester United is heading.
My question is simple. If the Barca tactics bore the tits off you why would it suddenly be acceptable if this is the road VG wants to go down.
It's all purely hypothetical at the moment of course because as I said before we don't really know the path VG wants to go down other than possession football.

You forget one thing, we're all football fans, therefore fickle by nature. :lol:

Even though I've never been completely enamored with the Barcelona style of play I appreciate how successful it was and how fantastic a side they were. I guess if it is your team playing like that, dominating teams and scoring beautifully well worked goals it will be alot easier to handle.