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Post by matt on Apr 25, 2015 10:21:58 GMT
Yeah, Cech is obviously an interesting temporary solution.
But if De Gea leaves, I actually hope we can go for a long-term solution. We need to get more players who will be the next Rio, Carrick, the next Giggs and Scholes in terms of being pillars of the team, the example you rely on when you're a young player. I think LVG has understood that very well if you look at signings like Herrera, Blind who look like future core players at United.
But getting a long-term goalkeeper imo is very important for the balance of the team.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 10:38:25 GMT
Why is the goalkeeping position seemingly the toughest position to bring someone up through the youth system? Can't remember the last time a top club had a first choice keeper who was English and produced by themselves. Like I said a few posts ago, Johnstone is a keeper with potential but the likeliness is he'll never get a chance like many keepers before him.
It's just a shame we're always looking abroad to see where the next top keeper is coming from instead of looking down our own youth system.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 11:27:44 GMT
I don't know what the fuck happened to goalkeeping in this country full stop, it was the one position we always excelled at producing in. When you think Joe Corrigan, who would walk into any top BPL side these days, was third choice for England behind Ray Clemence and Peter Shilton you scratch your head. David Seaman seems to have been last of that breed.
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Post by Nemanja79 on Apr 29, 2015 8:04:58 GMT
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Post by Dave on Apr 30, 2015 19:49:27 GMT
Koeman's said that Clyne's got 10 days to decide his future and they are prepared to let Schneiderlin go if he wants to.
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Post by Jerry Koh on May 1, 2015 4:30:58 GMT
Is it possible that we will sign both players? If so, could we potentially sign both for a combined transfer fee lower than that of Shaw's?
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Post by Splendid Spy on May 1, 2015 4:37:55 GMT
Schneiderlin is a good player but he's injury prone. The last thing we need is another sicknote. I am in favor of signing Clyne though. He has gotten better defensively.
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2015 7:39:33 GMT
Is it possible that we will sign both players? If so, could we potentially sign both for a combined transfer fee lower than that of Shaw's? It's possible and I highly doubt it, 35-40m is probably about right for the pair.
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2015 7:43:52 GMT
Schneiderlin is a good player but he's injury prone. The last thing we need is another sicknote. I am in favor of signing Clyne though. He has gotten better defensively. Injury prone? He's played 26 games this season, had a couple of injuries but no more than anyone else, not like anything serious either. Previous seasons 31 and 36 respectively so I'd hardly label him injury prone.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 7:44:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 7:48:58 GMT
Yeah I think people mistake injury prone with people who have just had a couple of injuries like every player does in their career. Michael Owen and Owen Hargreaves were injury prone and fragile, couldn't look at a ball without getting a groin strain or doing their cruciate. Schneiderlin is not injury prone.
In terms of the value of them both, I think you could get a combined deal for £30mil at a push, realistically you're looking at £32-35mil though. £12mil for Clyne and £20mil for Schneiderlin.
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Post by Splendid Spy on May 1, 2015 8:56:43 GMT
seems like he was missing games every now and then. i could be wrong though.
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Post by Nemanja79 on May 1, 2015 9:23:18 GMT
Gareth Bale to Man Utd: 11 reasons why the transfer could happen1. Real's fans haven't taken to the WelshmanDespite his consistent scoring form, and his goals in the finals of last year's Champions League and Copa del Rey, Real's supporters remain ambivalent towards Bale. The situation reached its nadir earlier this year when Los Blancos' fans jeered the Welsh winger after he chose to shoot rather than pass to Cristiano Ronaldo, who was in a better position. 2. Cristiano Ronaldo is not a man to get on the wrong side ofThe relationship between Ronaldo and Bale - while far from acrimonious - is not warm. The Portuguese demands to be the main man at the Bernabeu and is not afraid to publicly berate his teammates if he feels they are not recognising his status: in January, he was visibly annoyed when Bale decided not to pass to him when he was well placed, and a recent Bale goal was met by irritation from Ronaldo that he was not the one who put the ball in the net. 3. Angel di Maria set the precedent for moving from Real to UnitedAs Di Maria showed last summer, there are very few players at Real who are completely safe. Despite being a key player for the Spanish giants and putting in a man-of-the-match performance in the Champions League final, the Argentine was flogged to United for £59.7m. Moreover the fact that Di Maria joined a team who were not in the Champions League shows the power United still have to attract stellar names, and perhaps even more importantly the huge wages they can offer. 4. Manchester United are willing to spend big to restore past gloriesThe Old Trafford club splurged a huge amount of money in 2014 - with over £150m spent in the summer, and £37.1m handed to Chelsea for the January sale of Juan Mata - and now they have even more cash. A new record-breaking kit deal with adidas is worth £75million-a-year, while they will also bank a huge amount from returning to the Champions League this season. It all means that money is no object in the pursuit of Bale. 5. Real Madrid have no problem jettisoning recent big-name signingsJust ask Wesley Sniejder or Arjen Robben. The Dutch pair were signed in 2007, but were both sold two years later despite largely producing the goods on the pitch. A similar fate could befall Bale - it will be two years this summer since he joined Real from Spurs. 6. Isco is a fans' favourite and would be kept over BaleBale has often found himself jostling for position with the young Spanish midfielder Isco, who arrived in the same summer as the Welshman. Isco is popular with the supporters, and would command nowhere near the same fee as Bale, so if one of them had to be sold to generate some money to spend on the next galactico, you suspect it would be Bale. 7. Marco Reus is waiting in the wings to replace the Welsh starReus is being primed to replace Bale and become the club's latest galactico. The exciting German forward will likely leave Borussia Dortmund at the end of the season, and Madrid is his expected destination. Even Real would struggle to accomodate Reus, Bale, Ronaldo, James Rodriguez and Isco - and Rodriguez's promising first season would probably make him safe from any possible sale. With Isco and Ronaldo also unlikely to be sold, Reus's arrival could mean bye bye Bale. 8. Joining United would mean Bale was closer to his familyAs well as the push factors from Madrid, swapping Madrid for Manchester would also hold some appeal for Bale. Firstly the move would mean the Welshman would be closer to his family - a particular concern given that Bale has a young daughter. 9. Bale knows he would be the main man at Old TraffordRealistically no matter what Bale does at the Bernabeu, he is aware that he will always be the junior partner to Ronaldo. He'll also continue to move down the pecking order as Real hoover up a galactico in his position each summer. At United, Bale would be the fulcrum of the team, and he would be linking up with a manager who so far has played a very attacking style with up to three strikers in the team at once. A return to the Premier League and the chance to be the focal point of a team once more could see Bale performing as spectacularly as he did when last in England. 10. A move to Manchester would provide the chance to team up with Ryan GiggsBale has made no secret of his admiration for compatriot Giggs, and a move to Old Trafford would see him linking up with the club's assistant manager. Last year Bale said of the United legend: "I always used to watch Ryan Giggs growing up for obvious reasons, he played on the left, same as I do, and he’s Welsh and everything like that. So for me I always used to watch him play and the way he played football was so nice to watch. The things he could do with a football were incredible." Giggs would also be desperate for the sale to go through - especially if he was seen to have played a part in the deal. 11. United can offer Champions League football againAn obvious point, perhaps, but a possible move for Bale would not even be on the table had Louis van Gaal not steered Manchester United back into the top four. Champions League football is a prerequisite for signing players of Bale's magnitude, so the uplift in form engineered by Van Gaal was essential. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/gareth-bale/11339654/Gareth-Bale-to-Man-Utd-11-reasons-why-the-transfer-could-happen.html?frame=3287873_____________________________________________________________________________________ All good reasons for us to buy him and for him to come but £100m? I've no problem with the money touted though, not mine 'n' all...
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Post by matt on May 1, 2015 10:38:24 GMT
I don't know if Bale is the man we need, I'll leave that to our scouts. But I do know that we need a world-class attacker.
I believe Bale could be that man but he would seriously need to get a look in the mirror, as he is no where close to the level he had at Spurs: he doesn't have the same drive, intensity and desire he used to have. I would take Spurs's Bale with open arms, but the Madrid's Bale I might pass on in all honesty, especially at 100M.
However, I know Madrid tend to kill off some players, and Bale mght be one of them. Could United revigorate him?
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Post by Nemanja79 on May 1, 2015 11:03:02 GMT
However, I know Madrid tend to kill off some players Yeah, like Robben and Sneijder for example.
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