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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 23:59:43 GMT
On Ings.. He's young, English, proven he can score goals in the premier league and cause a lot of problems for numerous sides. He also seems like the sort of player who will wholeheartedly take on board what the manager tells him to do and how he wants him to play.
He's certainly worth a punt in my opinion, if it doesn't work out there will be plenty of clubs interested in buying him off us for a small profit.
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Post by spens1 on Apr 14, 2015 1:18:14 GMT
i think we're in for ings and leading the race now. i think he would be a good shot, he's going to come in on a bosman anyway, maybe he wouldn't be a starter (not immediately) but he would be a good third striker (it would mean Wilson would go on loan, almost a certainty, he would be our 4th striker)
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Post by matt on Apr 14, 2015 18:42:57 GMT
On Ings.. He's young, English, proven he can score goals in the premier league and cause a lot of problems for numerous sides. He also seems like the sort of player who will wholeheartedly take on board what the manager tells him to do and how he wants him to play. He's certainly worth a punt in my opinion, if it doesn't work out there will be plenty of clubs interested in buying him off us for a small profit. I agree. Besides, I believe that what we need to add to our team now are: - a wide attacker: Depay seems likely and this should be enough. - one quality box-to-box to compete with/partner Herrera and Fellaini, and if this player if goog enough to also cover for Carrick/Blind at CDM, even better! - one quality CB Anything else will be a bonus. I think we have found a good balance, and there is no need for LVG to break it with many new high-profile signings and having to do the work all over again. We have good players, it was only a matter of using them correctly, and that's what LVG has managed to do. Bring on 2 or 3 world-class players to complete that core, perhaps one or two youngsters/lower profile signings (ex: Ings on a free), and we're good to go. |
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Post by Nemanja79 on Apr 15, 2015 6:41:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 6:42:04 GMT
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Post by Nemanja79 on Apr 15, 2015 7:35:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 8:02:41 GMT
Valencia has completely won me around with his performances this season. He's always had the physical attributes to play the position well but not the footballing intelligence, it looks like under the tutelage of Van Gaal he's learned how to play the position properly.
The only way I'd bother investing in a right back is if we got rid of Rafa and needed someone in to compete with Valencia.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 9:00:14 GMT
Far from thrilled with both the Clyne and the Ings links.
I liked Clyne from the bits I'd seen at Southampton but his performances for England really worried me. Against Lithuania when England dominated the ball his passing and ball retention was terrible, even when finding a teammate the weight and direction of the pass was usually poor. Then against Italy he was just atrocious.
Yes, he's still young and there's time to work on his game but he's only a year younger than Rafa, he isn't Luke Shaw-young and doesn't look on Rafa's level to me, particularly in those England games. Really wouldn't see the point in it, there's nothing to suggest he's a better option than Valencia currently and nothing to suggest he'd be any better than Rafael as second choice.
Then Ings seems completely pointless to me as well. He's proven himself to be a decent Premier League striker, nothing more nothing less. What is there to suggest he can go to a side challenging for major honours? I'd much rather any minutes he might get next season be given to James Wilson. Leave the cheap punts to 18 year olds, not players already well into their 20s.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 9:18:10 GMT
Ings is only 22 in fairness, I wouldn't call that well into his 20's. If we're going to offload both RVP and Falcao in the summer we'll need another option in there. No point in breaking the bank for a superstar striker as they're not going to be guaranteed first team football. A hardworking, young, hungry English player with the potential to improve and someone who will undoubtedly do anything the manager asks of him isn't a bad option for me. He'll not be taking minutes off Wilson, they'll both be vying to be 2nd choice to Rooney. Wilson got game time earlier in the season while Falcao occupied the bench, nothing saying he'll be given any less with Ings in the squad instead.
I would say I'd only bother with Ings if we let RVP go as well as Falcao. If RVP stays there's no point bringing in another out and out striker. Our main attacking purchase should be a wide player.
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Post by Dave on Apr 15, 2015 9:28:06 GMT
Good news, hopefully it's true, Clyne's been pretty solid for two or three seasons now in the PL and he's ready for the next step in his career.
Louis doesn't seem to fancy Rafa, he hasn't started a game since December? so the likelihood is that he won't be here next season. Clyne's improving, there are areas that needs work in his game but defensively he's generally sound and reliable, going forward he needs work but has shown glimpses of what he's capable of.
It'll be tough work shifting Valencia mind who's done very well this season but we need healthy competition.
Given his contract situation we shouldn't be held to ransom either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 9:32:40 GMT
Yeah I'd take him if we let Rafa go but as you say he'll have a tough time taking Valencia's position, he's playing as well as any right back in the world right now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 9:42:19 GMT
Ings would be 23 by the time he kicked a ball for us though. I have seen nothing to suggest he's good enough for us, would anyone be suggesting it if he wasn't out of contract?
He just looks the same as any other work-hard-score-a-few-at-relegation-fodder striker that we see every season. A bit like if we'd signed David Nugent 8 or 9 years ago. We already look likely to sign Depay, I'd much rather just allow him to be cover for two positions than bring someone like Ings in. The nicest thing I can say about him is he's a bit better than Charlie Austin.
I think van Persie will still be here as well anyway.
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Post by Dave on Apr 15, 2015 9:51:11 GMT
I kind of agree on Ings.
Marc who would you go for as a striker then?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 9:55:03 GMT
I'm not going to lose sleep if we don't sign him, nor am I going to be overly excited if we do sign him. I just think he could be a sensible backup option for the reasons I've said above should we lose Falcao and RVP.
The question I ask myself is do I believe he'd have been more effective in our side this season than Falcao and RVP have been and I have to answer yes. I just think he looks like he has a bit more about him than your average hardworking striker at a side fighting relegation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 10:30:57 GMT
Going back to Clyne, if it is the proposed Chica swap / part ex deal I think that would be a pretty sharp deal. I think Clyne is an upgrade from Rafa defensively.
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