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Post by howAREya on Mar 11, 2015 15:14:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 15:37:33 GMT
He'll still be there next year whether they get top four or not. I fully expect him to do his three years irrespective.
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Post by howAREya on Mar 11, 2015 15:58:40 GMT
I'll reserve judgement on him until the end of the season. But if he doesn't finish top 4 I wouldn't be letting him anywhere near that proposed 150 million. (if that story is to be believed)
The current squad is more than capable of finishing in 1 of the champions league spaces.
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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 11, 2015 16:12:52 GMT
I'll reserve judgement on him until the end of the season. But if he doesn't finish top 4 I wouldn't be letting him anywhere near that proposed 150 million. (if that story is to be believed) The current squad is more than capable of finishing in 1 of the champions league spaces.I'll reserve my judgement on that first. From what I saw (the basics), I am not so sure anymore. Too many flaws within the squad. |
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Post by howAREya on Mar 11, 2015 16:16:30 GMT
Well compared to the competition I'd say we are
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 16:22:27 GMT
If the new blood would have settled in immediately and hit the ground running, then yes, I'd agree. But they all look like Vidic and Evra looked when they first got here, and you don't lose Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra out of a defence and not replace like for like and not expect consequences, it just ain't happening in the real world.
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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 11, 2015 16:26:51 GMT
I'd go as far as to say that Rojo looks a bit better than Vidić in his first season and Vida has played under Fergie. Maybe Rojo don't have the same ceiling as Vidić but he looks better as of now in comparison.
He most certainly needs more time. van Gaal too.
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Post by howAREya on Mar 11, 2015 16:29:04 GMT
Thing is only Chelsea and Southampton have conceded fewer goals than us in the league. Problem we have is in the other direction.
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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 11, 2015 16:30:29 GMT
Thing is only Chelsea and Southampton have conceded fewer goals than us in the league. Problem we have is in the other direction. Others don't have the big Dave on goal though.  Statistics are very often misleading. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 16:33:42 GMT
Rojo's been the bright spot out of all the newbies, but he still doesn't have the commanding, composure and awareness needed for the BPL yet - but I wouldn't expect him to have all that either, at this pint in hos career.
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Post by howAREya on Mar 11, 2015 16:35:20 GMT
True, all the more reason to be critical of us going forward.
Usually a keeper pulls off an important save it gives the side a kick up the #### and maybe take the finger out then. We just play as if as if his saves never happened.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 16:36:50 GMT
Thing is only Chelsea and Southampton have conceded fewer goals than us in the league. Problem we have is in the other direction. That's only the case because of the way LVG has shuffled the pack and made us play, he's had to kill our natural way of playing in order to achieve us not getting steamrollered and beaten every other week, that's why Rooney has been in midfield most of the season, etc. |
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Post by howAREya on Mar 11, 2015 16:45:43 GMT
Yeah I can understand that against the bigger teams. It doesn't have to be gung ho but the shackles could be freed just a little.
The other night is a case in point against Arsenal, one of the better sides, we seemed to be allowed play a bit more freely (maybe cuz it was an open game) yet we could have won it, far from outplayed.
There's a balance to be struck.
I've just yet to get my head around this playing philosophy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 17:02:20 GMT
Yeah I can understand that against the bigger teams. It doesn't have to be gung ho but the shackles could be freed just a little. The other night is a case in point against Arsenal, one of the better sides, we seemed to be allowed play a bit more freely (maybe cuz it was an open game) yet we could have won it, far from an outplayed. There's a balance to be struck. I've just yet to get my head around this playing philosophy It's the strong, athletic, mid table teams where we've had the biggest problems with our midfield and ultimately defence, that's why he switched the play the way he did - 5-3 Leicester was his wake up call. He realised then he wasn't going to get top four if they played like they did in the first half (exceptional) because there are large pieces missing from the jigsaw in order to play like that every week (ie, CM and CB). You've seen glimpses of the way he wants to play (Cambridge second leg) but it is only that, so far it's just a patched up United to get top four. |
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Post by howAREya on Mar 11, 2015 17:22:15 GMT
Awe I don't know
I remember West Ham away which would be one of those type of teams. This was the first tough game which came after playing a few teams from the bottom of the league.
West Ham game struck me from that day because it seemed to be this cautious approach all first half and even into 2nd half. They scored after having all the chances and deserved to be 1-0 up.
Pretty much after that we had them pinned back into their half and should have scored well before Blind's equalizer which would have given us a good chance at going onto win the game.
West Ham whilst still dangerous on the break that day didn't give us near enough trouble in the 2nd half as they did first half largely cuz the game was played in their end of the field.
We give teams too much opportunity to grow into games either through giving them the ball or playing it around ourselves just for the sake of it and an error is just waiting to happen
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