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Post by Hammy on Dec 4, 2014 20:12:44 GMT
That's what's wrong with society today. There's so much emphasis now that everything is bad for you and names for everything, it's no wonder kids stay in and play their xbox.
There's now too many useless people earning fortunes in their useless jobs trying to tell us how we should live. Well i say, go fuck yourselves, get a decent job and let people lead their lives the way we have done for the last 200,000 years.
I started kicking (and heading) a ball when i was 4. Started boxing at 10, played rugby at 13 and have probably tried most physical sports out there, just like all my mates, just like all their mates and except for my mate Al who fell off a milk van we're all still here in one piece.
Moral of the story is when your times up your times up and no amount of not heading a ball until you're 14 is going to stop that.
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Post by Red Or Dead on Dec 4, 2014 23:12:00 GMT
My sentiments exactly Mark, we fell off bikes and out of trees and are still here to tell the tale...........what a load of whiney bastards we see today, moaning fuckin' softees, whinging cos it's hard, it's cold and you can't say this and that , fuckin' pussies, God help the human race.
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Post by StrikerMo on Dec 5, 2014 7:35:21 GMT
I do! Parents should always make proper decisions when it comes to their children. I think that's just your proper decision... you've got a lot of hate in your heart Jie. :lol:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 8:46:03 GMT
let people lead their lives the way we have done for the last 200,000 years. Totally, let's go back to having a life expectancy of 12 and spend all day with your sole aim being to not die and maybe, if you have time, throw a rock. Fuck the modern world! |
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Post by Jie on Dec 5, 2014 12:07:33 GMT
That's what's wrong with society today. There's so much emphasis now that everything is bad for you and names for everything, it's no wonder kids stay in and play their xbox. There's now too many useless people earning fortunes in their useless jobs trying to tell us how we should live. Well i say, go fuck yourselves, get a decent job and let people lead their lives the way we have done for the last 200,000 years. I started kicking (and heading) a ball when i was 4. Started boxing at 10, played rugby at 13 and have probably tried most physical sports out there, just like all my mates, just like all their mates and except for my mate Al who fell off a milk van we're all still here in one piece. Moral of the story is when your times up your times up and no amount of not heading a ball until you're 14 is going to stop that. That's a little narrow minded. I'm not saying ignore all the science and go back to heading a leather ball, on the contrary - parents and kids should be educated when making their choice. No matter what sport you're in, being a professional athlete has its toll on your body and you should be well aware of it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that anyone is preventing you from training. So instead of saying "don't go out and ride a bike" or "go outside and ride a bike", parents should be telling their kids "if you ride your bike outside, you might fall" |
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Post by Hammy on Dec 5, 2014 14:38:13 GMT
Moi? Narrow minded?  I'd say it's more down to common sense. We all know if we go into boxing we're going to eventually get our nose broken. We know if we get continually kicked in the shin playing football we are going to get hurt. We know if we go into cycling later in life we will have hip problems. We know if we play darts we are going to turn into an alcoholic. We know if we parachute from a plane and it doesn't open we are going to get splattered. We know if we take up ballet we are going to get called a poofter. My rant about this is people get paid zillions of pounds in grants to come up with this useless information. It really isn't rocket science to understand if you play a physical game there's a lot more possibilities of getting hurt than if you stay at home tossing yourself off, although i did hurt myself quite badly once doing this but that's a story for another day  Having met Marc, as good as a lad that he is he had obvious mental deficiencies but i put that down more to mental health issues than heading a football. |
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Post by Red Or Dead on Dec 5, 2014 17:02:24 GMT
That's a little narrow minded. I'm not saying ignore all the science and go back to heading a leather ball, on the contrary - parents and kids should be educated when making their choice. No matter what sport you're in, being a professional athlete has its toll on your body and you should be well aware of it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that anyone is preventing you from training. So instead of saying "don't go out and ride a bike" or "go outside and ride a bike", parents should be telling their kids "if you ride your bike outside, you might fall" Have you got kids Jie? |
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Post by Red Or Dead on Dec 6, 2014 8:26:59 GMT
I'm sorry, but this is out of control, if the "British Chinese Project" don't like what is said in England, then fuck off back to China.
We are seeing a lot of it here now too, with immigrants from a different religious background trying to call the shots in our society and educational system and if anyone disagrees they are called racist or backward-thinkers, fuck that, they are well able to research the social welfare system to see what they are entitled to before they arrive here, so why not check out the religious cultures before you swan in here with your hand out.
Fuck'em stay where you are if you don't like it here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 8:51:38 GMT
The leader of the British Chinese project is British.... Why the fuck would he fuck off back to China? I don't know why people have a problem with not being able to say things that offend certain cultures and ethnicities, so basically what you're saying is, I'm entitled to offend who the fuck I like, wrong.
I'm sorry Brendan but a few of your comments are putting you across as an old fashioned bigot.
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Post by Red Or Dead on Dec 6, 2014 9:46:41 GMT
I agree with a lot of your points Jamie, please don't pick me up wrong here, but surely his forefathers were not indigenous to England, so his ancestors obviously chose to live where they settled and if they have apparently settled there then there must have been a good reason behind that so who is he to say that the people whose families have always been from where they are now are suddenly wrong and have the audacity to attempt to change their mindset.
Here in Ireland of late and this example only, not picking on any particular race or culture we have come to a situation where we have accepted an influx of new residents who are of the Muslim religion who have now began campaigns to have crucifixes and statues of Our Lady removed from schools and that teaching a religion class and an Irish language/culture class that their children refuse to attend should be abolished as it is causing them offence to be imposing Christianity on them. This is a Roman Catholic country from start to finish, so my point is...why come here if you don't like it beforehand and then have the cheek to attempt to change things when you do?
Go on a holiday with your wife/partner and/or children to Dubai or thereabouts and you can be sure to be restricted regarding dresscode and behaviour and these people think that they can play the "That's not PC" card in our countries and get away with it....that's what irritates me, not a person's colour or creed, it's the double-standard of it all.
Or if you are a refugee from a war-torn country that you are unable to return to, fair enough, but you are being taken in by a country who houses and feeds you and sets you up and your family, then 6 months down the road you start campaigning about persecution and racism, give me a fucking break, the options are simple, go back where you came from or be grateful?
Basically what if you go on a sun holiday to Spain or somewhere and didn't like the people or their attitude towards you, would you ..
.A) Not go back there again and take the loss?
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B) Move your entire family over there , set up a committee/alliance to challenge the way the native people conduct themselves?
Come on, someone needs to draw a line somewhere and fair enough if you step over the line then you're wrong, but things need to be generalised as to what are the fundamentals here...if you come into my country, you respect things and behave yourself as I do when I go to yours.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 10:25:24 GMT
We're all supposed to live in a modern multicultural society. Whether someones ancestors are native to Britain is completely irrelevant, the fact is they are British and as British citizens have the same rights as every other person in the country. And I say if the Chinese community are offended by a term used to describe them, who the fuck are we to tell them they have no right to be offended?
The stories about Muslims asking for all signs of Christianity to be removed from public places tend to come from trash newspapers like the Daily Mail, the truth is the majority couldn't give a fuck as long as they can practice their religion in peace but as far as teachings in school, again they have a right as Muslims to say I don't want my child to partake in a religious class that is very heavy on Christianity, more than anything it's completely pointless. When I was at school there were a few Jehovah's Witnesses in my year and they always missed R.E and nobody gave a shit.
We have to get out of the mindset of thinking this country was founded by white Christians so it should maintain those beliefs and people who don't agree can fuck off. The world has moved on from religion defining a country and Britain is a prime example of that as it has one of the highest percentages in the world of people who just don't give a shit about religion full stop. The country is for everyone not for me to say I'm going to say what the hell I like about other people because my ancestor's were here before theirs.
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Post by Red Or Dead on Dec 6, 2014 10:49:27 GMT
Did you smoke John Lennon's ashes last night?... :lol:
I see now where you are coming from, you are young and have idealistic views and believe in a universal utopia, but what irks me is when I open the local newspaper and the courts section is full of names that I can't even pronounce and the excuse given by their defense councel is addiction and homelessness.
Why are we supporting these people with our tax money? Scoop them up and send them back?
I have no problem with immigrants arriving on our shores who are willing to contribute to our society, but in the real world your utopia doesn't exist yet.
We have been the victims over here of non-nationals calling the shots because of their race/creed for long enough now...if you dont like the place , then just go home wherever that may be and please,please stop imposing your culture on me and expecting me to change my beliefs and way of life to accommodate you when you should be grateful that you are now set up in a neutral country that has accepted you with more than open arms.
....it's not rocket science to be fair.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 11:12:08 GMT
Don't patronise me by referring to my age because you're too narrow minded to accept change. I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone has tried to impose their culture on you, absolute crock of shit.
What non-nationals are calling shots? Again a crock of shit. You read in the tabloid that a Muslim woman was offended by a Christmas tree, believe the story then begin to proclaim that Muslims are trying to take over the country and tell you what to believe and how to behave.
The majority of these stories are absolute nonsense.
Being honest with you the first religion I would do away with if I had the chance would be every form of Christianity, I find the whole lot of them completely intolerable especially catholicism, followed by Islam then Judaism. Right there you get rid of the majority of the worlds problems.
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Post by Hammy on Dec 6, 2014 11:30:16 GMT
Both of you make some good points. I think Brendan hit the nail on the head when he mentioned coming from different generations.
Jaime. You probably went to school with a lot of people from different cultures and integrated with them which to you was seen as the normal.
Brendan like me was probably brought up in a one cultural society where there were no threats towards our own religion and culture. Now everything for us is changing and many people don't like change especially when our own identity is at stake.
Our generation has gone from being comfortable to almost being threatened in a very short space of time. This is what you can't understand Jaime because you have only known one side of the story.
I don't see Brendan as a bigot. I see him as someone who is seeing change that isn't for the better. We have to face facts here. Radical Islam is starting to take over the world. Sharia law is starting to take over parts of Britain and if nationalists from our own islands don't have a problem then they're in for a big shock.
I don't have a problem with any religion until they start to throw it in my face, which is what's happening now on a daily bases and it has nothing to do with newspapers sensationalising. Halal meat to use as an example. It's common knowledge that a lot of schools are now serving it up. Why should my children eat Halal meat just to please another religion that isn't my own? Why should my children go to a school that instead of teaching Religious education they are being taught about the Koran? Why should my children walking in some parts of Britain be subject to abuse because their dress code doesn't seem appropriate?
I'm not just talking about Islam. We have many other races coming in which once again i don't have a problem with. Where i do have a problem is when they have more rights than our own people. I'm ex forces and the amount of stories i hear about war veterans "on the streets" is scary, whereas immigrants come in, are offered housing straight away, money to live on and then they start to complain because they don't agree with the laws of the country. These are the people who can fuck right off.
I'm British through and through. If that makes me a bigot/racist then i accept that. If people want to come and fit in with our laws and society then i can accept that as well but what i can't accept is other religions/races coming in and try to dictate the way we should live. Absolutley no way in hell would i accept that.
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