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Post by germanc18 on Apr 11, 2016 7:24:29 GMT
I agree that Mourinho doesn't fit and we put the development of our youngsers at risk with him but I can no longer watch LVG ruining this club. ANYONE is better than him. With Louis we a assured to fail. I am fed up and hurt by watching this
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 7:26:23 GMT
Part of me hopes we don't make the top 4, so he's more likely to be replaced. It'll be completely soul destroying to see him in charge again next season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 9:47:38 GMT
Let's face it he doesn't help himself does he. :lol:
Injuries have killed us but his decisions and lack of leaders in the side has cost him / us, and should cost him his job irrespective of where we end up.
If the board keep him then you have a dysfunctional board too and we will continue to drift until it's corrected.
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Post by Red Or Dead on Apr 11, 2016 14:16:54 GMT
Mata on the right and Lingard in the # 10 role?
Danny Rose bombs forward all day long and he puts Mata out there with him, one of our slowest players?
We did fine with Mata in the hole and Lingard right, no wonder Mensah got injured trying to cover Mata's inability to track back and then he had to cover his own RB work as well.
LVG's tinkering went to shit again and has now caused an unnecessary injury in my opinion as well to one of our promising youngsters in the process
I was never one to say it, but now I just want him to go so much it hurts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 15:28:38 GMT
I get the Lingard in the Mata role move, he's got the engine and bite Mata sometimes lacks, but you're left with why have Mata on the right against a strong pressing, high work rate side like Spurs are at the moment.
It's not like there isn't options there, like why not put Martial up front and use Young on the left where he's been pretty effective. There were options to choose from yesterday and he didn't get them right, because he thought he knew better.
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Post by Kaushik on Apr 11, 2016 16:00:31 GMT
I get the Lingard in the Mata role move, he's got the engine and bite Mata sometimes lacks, but you're left with why have Mata on the right against a strong pressing, high work rate side like Spurs are at the moment. It's not like there isn't options there, like why not put Martial up front and use Young on the left where he's been pretty effective. There were options to choose from yesterday and he didn't get them right, because he thought he knew better. He could also put Memphis as No. 10 and Lingard in the right or Memphis in the left, Martial as No. 10. If Mata plays, then he has to play as No. 10. IMO Lingard doesn't have the creative spark to play as No. 10. And Mata in the right wing makes us very predictable. There are many decision that makes no sense, may be he is trying to get himself sacked. |
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Post by germanc18 on Apr 11, 2016 16:30:02 GMT
With the no.10 role I can understand why to play Lingard there but not to move Mata on the wing.
The no.10 is a choice between Mata, Lingard and Herrera
The wing is a choice between Lingard, Young and Depay.
It's Mata as no.10 or benched. He only plays RW because LVG has no winger he trust to do that job.
Therefore I'd put a proper winger top of our transfer list and not a striker. Ideally someone who can play both like Martial.
The fact LVG plays half the team out of position after almost 2 year at the club just underlines his failure. He played Young as RB and LB and surpringsly that worked well. So he must find another position for him to struggle? Everything he does is just so weird
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Post by germanc18 on Apr 11, 2016 16:32:58 GMT
Mata had to track back with Rose on several occasions. Any good coach would have reacted to that and put a more combatitive Lingard on that side or Young and I agree with Kaushik that Lingard lacks the passing ability to play there. He can do that job like Park did in special games such at the Emptihad where it worked out because of his activity
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 16:40:27 GMT
I'll be honest about Juan. I'm not convinced about him, no Mata (you're welcome) where he plays. He has bags of class, yes. But he is slow physically and mentally and he's too weak. He's too much of a passenger in games and this Manchester United side isn't good enough to allow any player to be a passenger.
I really like him, he's a nice bloke and has a huge amount of respect for the club and you can tell he feels privileged to be here but I wouldn't bother if we let him go in the summer. I just don't enjoy watching him play.
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Post by Dave on Apr 11, 2016 20:52:04 GMT
I kinda feel the same but I love him.
You have to build the side around him to utilise his qualities, needs pace and runners around him especially. The LVG effect might have something to do with his play this season though and I'd be willing to stick with him under a new manager but I'd fear for him under Mou.
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Post by spens1 on Apr 12, 2016 3:15:54 GMT
Rumours of outright dissent towards lvg for lashing out at rashford at half time and then rojo later
Think lvgs gone if he loses against west ham
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Post by Kaushik on Apr 12, 2016 3:19:57 GMT
Rumours of outright dissent towards lvg for lashing out at rashford at half time and then rojo later Think lvgs gone if he loses against west ham Rojo later? He should be the first one and the guy deserves some criticism but what would Rashford do when you create fuck all. And Rojo played for 90 mins |
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Post by Kaushik on Apr 12, 2016 3:29:34 GMT
On Mata I agree he is so poor this season but I would give him another chance like Dave said.
We didnt play to his strengths, Mata's strength is to find that killer pass to unlock the defence but LVG never allowed him to do that. According to his philosophy you should never try a risky pass(Look at what happened to Herrera). He is either put in the right wing or asked to pass to the wingers when he plays as no. 10.
Even then he combined well with Herrera when we played 4-3-3 and for whatever reason our most successful system has been never used again.
Play him as No. 10 with creative freedom with Martial on the left, Lingard on the right and Rashford as Striker.
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Post by spens1 on Apr 12, 2016 11:00:17 GMT
Rumours of outright dissent towards lvg for lashing out at rashford at half time and then rojo later Think lvgs gone if he loses against west ham Rojo later? He should be the first one and the guy deserves some criticism but what would Rashford do when you create fuck all. And Rojo played for 90 mins yeah he shouldn't be critical towards Rashford because Rashford is the reason he still has a job quiet frankly |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 11:04:14 GMT
Mata's stats are actually far better when he plays wide than centrally. People don't like to admit it because they like him and he's one of very few classy players we have in the side but I don't think he has the physical attributes to play number 10, especially in England and especially in this current United side with not enough movement and energy in and around him to open up the play. At least when he's out wide he has more time on the ball when he gets it.
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