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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 5:23:02 GMT
Ronaldo is 30 but his age isn't catching up to him yet.
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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 20, 2015 8:40:33 GMT
Bale as at the top and earning great wages. He will only leave if Real Madrid no longer want him. Well, their fickle 5 year olds are turning on him recently, I don't know for how long he'll endure that kind of behavior from the stands and that'll happen every time he under performs, like in the last couple of weeks, bar the last game. And what makes you thing that they'll want more than 350? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 23:28:59 GMT
Most clubs have fickle fans (some more than others). I think that most(not all)professionals that are in the public eye have learned to deal with the criticism. As soon as he gets in good form, the fans will act like they supported him all along.
And just to clarify, are we talking euros or pounds?
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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 20, 2015 23:36:22 GMT
Most clubs have fickle fans (some more than others). I think that most(not all)professionals that are in the public eye have learned to deal with the criticism. As soon as he gets in good form, the fans will act like they supported him all along. And just to clarify, are we talking euros or pounds? I thought pounds but now when you said all that, I concur.  While the Real fans are fickle proven as it gets, they'll love him more than their own moms when he gets a few good performances in a row, but if not, I'm afraid he'll be under even bigger pressure than he's now. It's also fair to say that he is one of the Florentino's new toys together with James so my bet prevails on the side of him sticking with Bale for a while, unless like I said he flops big time. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 0:32:57 GMT
I'm sorry for converting you. I'm a pessimist at heart. :-/
The question is... if my theories are true, is it actually pessimism? I'll leave that to the philosophers.
But in all honesty, I think Ronaldo will leave Madrid in four-five years perhaps since he is only starting to reach his peak (imo). Bale will stay for a while as long as he shows some consistency. I doubt he will leave if he's playing well. I have no doubt that he would be kicked out if he fails to impress since Real is always eying new toys.
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Post by spens1 on Mar 21, 2015 2:32:40 GMT
Most clubs have fickle fans (some more than others). I think that most(not all)professionals that are in the public eye have learned to deal with the criticism. As soon as he gets in good form, the fans will act like they supported him all along. And just to clarify, are we talking euros or pounds? there's fickle, then their's real madrid fans, even if you are in decent form, they'll complain that they ain't playing well enough |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 2:34:35 GMT
There was a while when we were in good form (result wise) and we were still unhappy with our playing style (as we should be)
But I do see what you are getting at. They are harsher than the average fan.
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Post by spens1 on Mar 21, 2015 5:33:42 GMT
There was a while when we were in good form (result wise) and we were still unhappy with our playing style (as we should be) But I do see what you are getting at. They are harsher than the average fan. well we were playing shit and getting wins more by luck then skill, knowing it would fall apart sooner or later |
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Post by matt on Mar 22, 2015 21:06:14 GMT
I actually don't see the point in bringing Ronaldo AND Bale (not that I believe the rumour though). But I like the idea of moving for a player of that mould to give us raw power, pace, dribbling, awareness and class upfront. I think that's one of the pieces we're missing in our current (and probably future) system. That being said, I would not go for either of them as they're too expensive: for that type of money, we can do some much better deals imo.
Di Maria should have been that man, but he looks lost completely and unlikely to adjust to LVG's tactical demands.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 21:18:38 GMT
Yeah signing both of them is pointless. I think signing a player like this very much depends on Di Maria. If he stays then I see it as unlikely. I'm actually reserving judgement on ADM until next season. Think he'll be a different player with a full pre-season into him and also learning alot from playing in England a year...that being said if I had the chance to get rid of him and bring in Ronaldo or Bale (Preferably Bale) I couldn't turn that down. Di Maria is clearly struggling physically with the league, that isn't an issue with Bale.
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Post by matt on Mar 22, 2015 22:00:52 GMT
Well, what bothers me more with Di Maria is how poor he has been individually. His movements, his passings: I haven't seen much since his tremendous start in the BPL. It's like the league or the system we're playing is not suited to him and his strengths.
I am not saying I want to see him gone because he is a tremendous player when on form as he has shown last season. But at this point I believe he is not suited to the type of football LVG is implementing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 22:15:11 GMT
I agree, to put it in the simplest terms he just doesn't look up to it in every aspect right now (despite his assist for Mata's 2nd being his 9th of the season I think).
But I definitely think he'll improve next season if still here. I saw improvement vs Arsenal before his stupid sending off. We've also seen in glimpses his quality particularly earlier in the season. QPR, Burnley and Leicester games spring to mind. Then an International break came and he seemingly hasn't returned.
Like I say. I haven't lost complete faith but I also wouldn't be overly concerned if he was moved on in the summer.
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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 22, 2015 22:25:57 GMT
Physicality of the league is becoming more and more a myth by the day. All you need to do is to look around the leagues, see some matches and discovery on that subject will be surprisingly eyeopening.
You can see the physical battles of the same intensity in Germany, Spain, France and Italy too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 22:34:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 22:43:06 GMT
Have to disagree there. You get kicked about and bullied a lot more without protection from referees in this country. No disputing sides in other countries CAN play a physical and high intensity game but that's the norm for nearly every side in the premier league now.
Playing in Spain especially you know against sides lower in the league you're going to get plenty of time on the ball. In England whether you're playing Liverpool or Leicester you're going to be hounded with every touch of the ball.
Falcao has struggled in the same way. Every time the ball is played into his feet he takes a touch and expects to be able to wait a few seconds and turn or make a forward pass and it just isn't that easy to do.
Those 2 have definitely struggled with the intensity of a lot of games, particularly against lesser opposition. In no other league would you get a side the equivalent of Hull putting a side the equivalent of Chelsea under so much pressure after going 2-0. The corresponding fixture in Spain would've finished 6-0. Is that down to the top sides in Spain being better than the top sides in England? Yes partly... but it's also down to the intensity at which our lesser teams play at.
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