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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 10, 2015 19:21:06 GMT
I went for 5 positions + 1 here, could be trimmed if you cut out one of the new box to box CM's and put Herrera in. I also don't have an idea about side defenders, just thrown Rodriguez and Alves out of my arse because we've been linked with them.
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Post by Rach1986 on Mar 10, 2015 20:00:27 GMT
I think Shaw deserves more time .... we paid a lot for the youngster so we can't afford to offload him for a loss anyway I agree that Rojo and Blackett can both cover this position if required. I think our Summer money should be spent elsewhere
One thing going for Shaw is that he's English and does not have to adapt to the premier league. He also knows the rivalry and history between clubs in the English league - I know Giggs gives special briefings to the team newbies to explain who are Liverpool and Man City lol to explain the history and rivalries.
It's OK to buy foreign players but they have to be weaned in (for at least one season) and some never make it ... we have seen a few examples come and go.
I'm buggered if I know what's the right balance between "home-grown" players and foreign imports - It's a bit like patchwork families it takes a while to click. I think stability is part of the settling so only tweak it where you need to.
And let's face it - if we don't make top 4 who's going to come to Old Trafford ? and more importantly how do we then manage to keep DDG.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 20:20:53 GMT
If you put Clyne or Coleman in, in place of Rapha, and lose Evans for Hummels , add a Schneiderlin in place of Fellaini and Mr X in place of Falcao, you're still the same in terms of British based player squad balance, and numbers required by the Premier league. It's just a shame there aren't more outstanding candidates ready for prime time coming from the academy - a full class of 92 don't come round too often though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 20:53:07 GMT
There's alot of talent there but it's turning it into quality players. So many have come and gone and I'm not on about Pogba. The likes of Tunnicliffe who I had down as a certainty to succeed here, Morrison who's a cunt and even the likes of Larnell Cole all had potential that at that age looked as if it could be turned into enough ability to be a first team premier league player.
Of the current crop there's a lot who have ability...Harrop, Tuanzebe, Rashford, Pearson and Gribbin are 5 off the top of my head who look like they have a good level of ability for that age but the likeliness is that none of them will have a career here.
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Post by spens1 on Mar 10, 2015 23:14:09 GMT
...and Blackett is capable at LB i like him as a CB tbh
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Post by Red Or Dead on Mar 10, 2015 23:24:10 GMT
...and Blackett is capable at LB i like him as a CB tbh He can play both well, but as a left-footed player I don't think he is going to shift Rojo from LCB for the time being.
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Post by spens1 on Mar 11, 2015 1:20:21 GMT
which is fine for now, having him come off the bench for rojo isn't such a bad thing since he is young.
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Post by Red Or Dead on Mar 11, 2015 8:09:20 GMT
Rojo is 24, how long should he be a sub for Rojo?
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Post by Jie on Mar 11, 2015 12:12:42 GMT
I'm with the people saying we have enough people to cover that left back place if needed. Young has been doing it pretty well this season, and I don't see him leaving that summer. Rojo, James, Blind, Blackett - all can fill in. Of course competition for a spot is always good, but do we really need it? Shaw has had his ups and downs this season, and has been a little disappointing, but he has also shown some great ability and I'm eager to see his progress next season.
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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 11, 2015 13:03:28 GMT
In my country we have an expression: од вишка глава не боли. Basically it means that you're very likely to have much bigger problems if you don't have enough quality to pick from than if you actually have that quality.
Lets be serious here and take off the red specs for a moment at least, we don't have enough quality in each position alone, the left back spot being one of them too. We have a bunch of inexperienced youngsters who may or may not become required quality and that simply is unacceptable.
One "proper" left back is not enough, in today's game particularly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 13:34:05 GMT
It's just not a priority right now though
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Post by Nemanja79 on Mar 11, 2015 13:39:06 GMT
Yeah agree with that, first things first.
I was more pissed with Shaw to be honest when I created this thread because of another injury and God knows how much we need a constant and settled defense. Well, actually, every team does. I just don't trust in another options too much. We need Blind in the middle and Rojo at CB, not good shifting them around because the first choice struggles badly.
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Post by Red Or Dead on Mar 11, 2015 13:50:32 GMT
Yes, Shaw needs to stay fit and get up to speed with the position and our style of play as well as leaving the others settle into their own positions. Injuries can be unfortunate especially if they are knocks, but if they are constantly strains and pulls, he needs to put more work into his fitness to stay injury free.
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Post by spens1 on Mar 12, 2015 10:17:21 GMT
Rojo is 24, how long should he be a sub for Rojo? if he is good enough, he will overtake rojo, i don't think pandering him (like other prospects in the recent past) will do him any good, he needs to compete for a starting spot and show he is worthy of it, if he plays well (which he has, minus the few brain lapses) then he'll definitely get his chance considering how shit we are in the back (and not like we can't have him play as a 3rd string lb) him playing backup left center back and 3rd string lb doesn't sound all that bad, it at least shows we have depth
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Post by Red Or Dead on Mar 12, 2015 10:52:20 GMT
I don't think LVG is ever going to start Blackett ahead of Rojo unless he is injured Spens, if LVG thought he was good enough why even buy Rojo?
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