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Post by Red Or Dead on Jun 11, 2015 12:20:43 GMT
My point is that it is easier to get 50k through at home games when you are the ony PL team in the city, not like Manchester where an attendance population can be split.
If you want to go to the football in Newcastle, you go to St. James's because there is nobody else there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 13:09:09 GMT
They haven't won a major trophy since 76' which was a league cup, haven't won the F.A cup since 55' or a league title since the 1920's. They're not a big club, they're a middling club and always will be unless they get a sugar daddy owner. They may have a good season and finish in the top 6 but they're just as likely to have a bad season and finished in the bottom 6 and have to fight relegation. Getting 50k fans through the gates doesn't give you a divine right to be classed as a big club.
You've got Sunderland with a near 50k seater stadium, more league titles to their name than Newcastle as well. So by that logic they're also a big club. For me there are only 2 truly big clubs in England and thats us and the scousers. Arsenal a level below with Chelsea narrowly behind. Then the likes of City, Villa and Everton come after that. Newcastle don't come close to that top bracket and just need to accept their level.
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Post by Jerry Koh on Jun 11, 2015 13:25:48 GMT
You wouldn't consider Arsenal a big club?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 14:00:44 GMT
Not on the same level as United or Liverpool and other European elite sides. It's why I put TRULY big club, to emphasise that obviously Arsenal are a big club when comparing them to most other sides in England but not in the same was as you speak about United and Liverpool being big clubs. The big thing missing for them is the Champions League. Can you really class a club without a champions league title to its name as one of the elite clubs? Not in my opinion.
It's another term that's banded around too often, like referring to players as legends. United are a big club, nobody can dispute that, even though Liverpool haven't had much success in terms of the league for over 20 years, they're still a very big club. Arsenal are a very good club and definitely the 3rd biggest in England.
This kind of proves the point about Newcastle though, if someone can logically dispute a club like Arsenal being referred to as a big club, there's no way Newcastle can be called a big club.
If I word it differently and say United and Liverpool are massive clubs. Arsenal are a big club along with Chelsea just in behind. With the likes of Villa, City, Everton a further step behind, it still doesn't work in Newcastle's favour.
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Post by Red Or Dead on Jun 11, 2015 15:49:29 GMT
...and to add in terms of trophies, while fair enough Arsenal have won back to back FA cups recently, it's all they have won in a decade so don't deserve to be in our bracket as big,big clubs so where does that leave the likes of Newcastle now?
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Post by Dave on Jun 28, 2015 17:05:03 GMT
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Post by Red Or Dead on Jun 28, 2015 18:10:02 GMT
Well done Phil,hope it goes well for him.
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Post by spens1 on Jun 28, 2015 23:57:16 GMT
congrats to Phil
whose the manager at Valencia, seems rather random to me
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 8:13:40 GMT
Valencia owner Peter Lim is also an investor in Salford City. He's a business partner of Phil Neville. It's not as random as it seems.
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Post by Dave on Jun 29, 2015 8:23:13 GMT
Aye, decent gig though, decent Spanish club and they're in the champions league aren't they? Heard the weathers not bad in Spain either  Plus we won't be hearing him drone on in commentary, everyone's a winner. |
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Post by Dave on Jun 30, 2015 18:49:53 GMT
Pearsons been given the boot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 19:35:38 GMT
That news is simultaneously surprising and totally expected.
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Post by Red Or Dead on Jun 30, 2015 19:46:07 GMT
"Regrettably the club believes that the working relationship between Nigel and the board is no longer viable" was their statement regarding the sacking of Pearson.
Sad day for him really.
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Post by Mani Khatra on Jun 30, 2015 21:22:56 GMT
That news is simultaneously surprising and totally expected. Why is that Monty. I thought he did a brilliant job in keeping them up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 22:35:52 GMT
Because that's what clubs do
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