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Post by spens1 on Jul 22, 2017 7:08:40 GMT
we could go nuts and go for Neymar (200 mill) but that would be a bit too much, even for us.
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Post by Dave on Jul 22, 2017 8:52:43 GMT
Never been overly keen on Matic and a little surprised to see him linked given how Jose threw him under a bus in his last season. That said Mourinho must feel he is suitable for Pogba and that's the midfield he desired at Chelsea so if Matic can rediscover his 14/15 form then we'll have a good player.
The fee is excessive but that's the market, we kicked it off with 90m for Pogba, added extras for being between big clubs. I feel there must be better valuable alternatives but when the likes of Kyle Walker cost 50m who's done naff all in his career it's not a huge stretch, if Mourinho gets what he wants then he's got no excuses come the end of the season.
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Post by spens1 on Jul 22, 2017 10:47:18 GMT
Well compared to Kyle Walker, most deals will look good.
Apparently the initial offer was 35 million (which i'd say is par).
Another option, who isn't a DM in the traditional sense but is damn tenacious, Veratti. He would cost in and around 50 million and i think we can all agree, he's a lot better then Matic.
Neymar 90% to leave Barca. PSG are going to pay 200 million freaking pounds for him. How are they going to go for both Neymar and Sanchez (actually, how can they pay 200 mill for a player without sales and be within financial fair play, PSG doesn't raise that much in revenue).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 20:47:35 GMT
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Post by spens1 on Jul 22, 2017 22:57:06 GMT
that would be reasonable but spurs are going to reject that outright.
Pogba wants Aurier apparently. Considering Danilo is going to city for 27 mill, i'd rather hijack that deal (why are city buying another rb, bunch of headless chooks).
Also given we need a DM, why not Ndidi, i saw somewhere where he had the 2nd most tackles in 2017 or something like that.
PSG put in a 35 mill bid for Sanchez, again, why aren't we in for him, instead, we're going for some mediocre winger who plays for a mediocre inter milan team. great ambition jose.
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Post by germanc18 on Jul 24, 2017 8:29:34 GMT
With TFM and Darmian we seem covered at RB in terms of back-up options for the coming season but I don't see either as longterm successor to Tony. Aurier could be a solution for that but concerns over his character, he's a troublemaker as it seems.
We have been offered Renato Sanches on season long loan with view to buy. For me he is too similar to Pereira isn't he? We can't demand more playing time for Pereira and in the same moment want Sanches to be signed. Anyway, without buying option its a straight "fuck off" but having the chance to sign such a bright prospect doesn't come twice maybe? Surely he is not the solution for now to fix our DM, if ever because I see him further up the pitch, but he surely has the talent to be world-class in the near future.
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Post by Dave on Jul 24, 2017 8:50:43 GMT
Another option, who isn't a DM in the traditional sense but is damn tenacious, Veratti. He would cost in and around 50 million and i think we can all agree, he's a lot better then Matic. He's a lot better than Matic which is why he'd cost a lot more than 50m and PSG aren't interested in selling.
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Post by germanc18 on Jul 25, 2017 9:54:13 GMT
I have rarely seen so much silence in the middle of a transfer window re United. That's strange especially the clear communication that we want to sign more players.Going to be interesting who arrives. I think deadline day deals are back amongst the possibilities this year for us.
Despite Pereira not being fully ready for the Prem, his return eases the situation in terms of squad depth and competition for places which will only help the likes of Martial to get better. If competition leads to Martial being back to his best that would be far better than signing Perisic for example.
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Post by Dave on Jul 25, 2017 16:18:24 GMT
I think we all know who they are
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Post by germanc18 on Jul 25, 2017 21:43:08 GMT
Now reports are emerging that our transfers activity is limited by the Glazers unwillingness to spend the clubs money. Who would have thought that.
Whether true or not, would be the best transfer ever if could get them bastards out of the club!
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Post by germanc18 on Jul 26, 2017 6:55:10 GMT
hmmm...the asking price for Persic and Matic is 50m each. So obviously the Glazers limit is below 100m. So we either sign one of them or are forced to look to cheaper alternatives. Now that basically means iso signing two 28 year old ready made players we have to at least switch for one to a prospect we first have to develop. For me that is nothing bad as I always prefer to sign young player. Otherwise the transfer market has changed there also as only raw potential costs also heavy fee nowadays like Sanches for example. Would like to know what limit was given to Ed (all just in case reports are true.) If we turn to cheaper alternatives they must clearly be an upgrade on our back-ups already at the club, so the likes of Pereira, Lingard etc.
I guess with Mourinho it is like "get what I want or nothing".
You expect that with the Mbabbe to Real rumour straight away Bale to United is back on. Now with the Glazers holding us back again we can forget about that if any truth was in that story. Apart from that I'd celebrate it if we sign him even if that means no DM arrives. I see the wing as more important anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 10:30:25 GMT
They'll pay for the top, top talent in the right positions and the right youth talent; business model dictates that that gives best 'good value' long term. Technically we're still restocking the first team and squad from the end of the Fergie era.
There's no way they'll be held to ransom for a relatively average 29 year old left sided attacking midfielder though, they'd rather sign Verratti at 70m and keep him for the next 5+ years and/or have resale value if he wants to leave.
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Post by Dave on Jul 26, 2017 11:11:29 GMT
Where are you getting that from? Unwillingness to spend :lol: It's laughable we're breaking transfer records year after year, hold the world transfer record and have the highest transfer of the summer so far probably would have broke it again had Griezmann been a goer. That said we're a business not an endless money pit and there's no shame in that, spunking 130m on three fullbacks or 200m+ (thats without the wages) on Neymar/Mbappe is absurd and perhaps isn't feasible for us the same as it isn't for 99.999% of clubs in the top European leagues. Anyways rumours are rife of Mbappe to Madrid so Bale might well be on the cards
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Post by germanc18 on Jul 26, 2017 12:15:47 GMT
"Manchester United are willing to spend big, but there is a limit to that because of the Glazers. [@duncancastles] #MUFC"
I know its just that Duncan Castles but the idea of the Glazers holding us back is nothing new and could be a real concern again. United started spending again over the last 2-3 years, before was just filling the Glazers pockets year after year. Llike the Ronaldo millions when we got Owen and Obertan for Ronaldo and tevez. Now was on twitter that the Glazers blocked the moves for Perisic and Matic because they limited the transfer budget in a way that both deals weren' possible. I mean I do not like both players but if the club really wants them we should get them. The club surely has the money and it would be a disgrace if Mourinho wasn't allowed to invest what then ment a total of £200m which the club could easily invest after record revenues.
It would be another fucking disgrace from the Glazers if they return to a policy where we are not re-investing our own money (maybe because we are back in CL, the only reason why they were spending big to return to that money pot) They don't care about a #21, they only care about dividends like the £18,3m they receive this year from United.
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