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Post by Rach1986 on Feb 14, 2019 9:36:24 GMT
Thought this was a good piece to read
Man Utd 0-2 Paris St-Germain: 'United's defeat was several years in making'
The chasm between United and PSG only underscored the importance of Woodward and his boardroom colleagues finally getting a big decision right when it comes to choosing their next manager and the path forward.
Optimism has rightly risen amid Solskjaer's renewal of United, but this was a graphic illustration of just how far away they are from where they want to be.
Is appointing Solskjaer a gamble or a question of Woodward and the board holding their nerve and moving away from the star-struck recruitment policy that led to Louis van Gaal and later Mourinho?
Whatever it is, the manner in which they were outclassed and dismissed by PSG only emphasised the fact that this time they cannot afford to take another wrong turn or they risk falling even further behind Europe's best.
For me Ole is defintiely the guy for us - together with the coaching team - we have our DNA back - Pochettino will not bring this. Why do you think Martial extended ? The key is the board and the support they will give to him - it's true we are not run cheaply but the investments made have been very poor and the mortgage we are paying Alexis every single week is just a joke.
The first stamp of our will going forward is to get DGG signed up.
We fans have to accept that this is a work in progress (still and yes it has been for 6 years) and consider that maybe we are on the first step of the climb back with Ole.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 13:26:52 GMT
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Post by Dave on Feb 14, 2019 19:23:30 GMT
So what you're saying is they're inept and haven't a clue what they're doing. You give a well travelled 29 year old speed merchant, with excess mileage on the clock, a 4 year contract at 500k a week, only to discover his legs have gone when all the signs were there at the tail end of his Arsenal career. ...but hey, he's a name and shirt sales could be good. And you wonder why the wage bill is like it is. I'll not go thru the whole squad, you know as well as I do the level of under investment under Fergie's latter tenure and the knock on effect through the rest of the failed managerial appointments, of having to replace virtually an entire first team. Inept isn't in it. But Ole should be appointed, no doubt in my mind about that. He's hungry as fuck, sharp as a tack with a solid team around him. I'm not concerned about that. It's the clueless fucking morons above him holding the purse strings.  I actually think you could be right about the penny dropping with them, which is why I'm on the fence, till Summer. Just saying there has been investment but it’s been poorly utilised. We were managed by Mourinho, a short term manager who loved short term fixes. If it wasn’t Sanchez then it would have been Willian or Perisic and we’d be in the same boat of an over the hill player with a huge outlay plus Martial most likely out of the door. He wanted Boateng after already spending over 60m on two centrebacks, god knows who he’d have replaced Pogba with... the man is a cretin but we all know that. I think the club wanted to get back to being successful as soon as possible so went for the experienced heads with the best CV’s but perhaps they have realised that it takes much more than that and are prepared to take a more measured approach. As I say all the talk is that the club want to restructure and there was clearly a conflict of interest with the previous manager., so here’s hoping. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 14, 2019 20:17:53 GMT
Again though, how can we be so sure that this is just down to his managerial ability (which he certainly has, no doubt) and not just everyone being so thrilled that Jose and the toxicity he brought to the club is finally gone. Also you would think we were run on the cheap the way the board have been carrying on, we've only bought Fred and Dalot (Dalot is alright, Fred on the other hand......). I agree with what Edwood said, we need to spend major money, like 250 mill net spend in the summer kind of money to get this squad anywhere near where we need to be (i said net, because we should be selling a good portion of the deadwood as well). I think you can say that after 5 or so matches at a push but not after 12: 10 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat against a range of opponents and with a generally good level of performance. To put that purely down to being shot of Jose is a disservice to Ole and the team, the players have clearly responded to him and that’s been backed up by the results, performances and stats. Lets see how the rest of the season goes but so far it’s been a brilliant audition, he clearly has a vision for the club and plus it’s not just him it’s Phelan, Carras, McKenna and co they all know and understand the club, players and expectations all of which our previous managers have struggled to get to grips with. I agree with you both we need to spend and spend wisely. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 14, 2019 20:24:18 GMT
Posted this in Ole’s thread but here’s some stats Spens:    The numbers for Rashford, Pogba and co speak for themselves as well but not only that but their consistency in performance levels has been exceptional that’s more than a bounce. |
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Post by spens1 on Feb 15, 2019 1:58:47 GMT
Again though, how can we be so sure that this is just down to his managerial ability (which he certainly has, no doubt) and not just everyone being so thrilled that Jose and the toxicity he brought to the club is finally gone. Also you would think we were run on the cheap the way the board have been carrying on, we've only bought Fred and Dalot (Dalot is alright, Fred on the other hand......). I agree with what Edwood said, we need to spend major money, like 250 mill net spend in the summer kind of money to get this squad anywhere near where we need to be (i said net, because we should be selling a good portion of the deadwood as well). I think you can say that after 5 or so matches at a push but not after 12: 10 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat against a range of opponents and with a generally good level of performance. To put that purely down to being shot of Jose is a disservice to Ole and the team, the players have clearly responded to him and that’s been backed up by the results, performances and stats. Lets see how the rest of the season goes but so far it’s been a brilliant audition, he clearly has a vision for the club and plus it’s not just him it’s Phelan, Carras, McKenna and co they all know and understand the club, players and expectations all of which our previous managers have struggled to get to grips with. I agree with you both we need to spend and spend wisely. No doubt he has been brilliant. But i can't help but be wary. We've seen managers like Pardew who have been brilliant when they come in and then their teams have gone completely haywire. Also is a retread going to bring the club forward, they understand the club but do we perhaps need to evolve a bit? Also does Ole have it in him to be tough when needed. Again, i think a lot of it will be based on how the rest of the season goes. I mean it would be a good dilemma though, a choice between Pochettino and Solskjaer is great. |
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Post by Oomtom on Feb 15, 2019 14:31:33 GMT
Ole can be tough - remember he was the Baby Faced Assassin. OK so that's not really a good measure but I have faith in him and a new belief in our team and our playing style. Ole knows that the main aim is top 4 and the FA Cup will sit nicely in our trophy cabinet.
As for PSG ole is the comeback king and our lads will not let him down is my prediction. They are now playing as much for Ole the club and their own Pride.
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