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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 15:02:38 GMT
I don't believe he is and there is only one person left realistically.
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Post by Kaushik on May 1, 2016 15:16:46 GMT
Poor result TBH Settled for a draw itseems.
LVG is a fucking clown to think a draw is enough. We needed a win desperately.
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2016 15:18:50 GMT
Well we need some favours now for top four.
Started brilliantly today, quick passing, wave after wave of attacks, got the goal and it looked like it could have been 3 or 4. We then gift them a free kick, which we were a shambles from and Rojo shit as usual.
Second half, similar to against Everton, Carra, Fellani, Rooney had no gas left and the movement from the front three lost its way. LVG leaving it a tad late in making the changes then Leicester then do what they do best sit back and dig out the result. Should have had a pen near the end.
Oliver is a prick, poor decisions throughout.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 15:25:01 GMT
We were outstanding for 15 minutes but bang average for the other 75. Fact is, we don't deserve top 4 and are almost certainly not going to get it now.
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Post by Hammy on May 1, 2016 15:25:21 GMT
VG saying we played one of our best games of the season. Said it's normal for Fellaini to elbow Huth. The sooner this idiot from cloud cuckoo land gets the fuck out the sooner we can get back to where we belong.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 15:27:04 GMT
One of our best games of the season? For fucking real? If the game ended at 15 minutes then fair enough but it doesn't it lasts 90 and for the other 75 we were fucking average.
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Post by howAREya on May 1, 2016 15:37:12 GMT
Whoever presided over the decision of keeping this clown at the club should be gone with him at the end of the season. No need for egos at this club protecting their sod
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Post by matt on May 1, 2016 15:48:50 GMT
We had one decent first half, where a truly good team would have scored 3 or 4 past that Leicester team. Then we saw how poor we actually are, when everyone seemed tired and uninspired in the second half, with no leader (either in the managerial staff or on the pitch) to get everyone focused and hungry.
The only good thing I'll take from this season is the potential of our youngsters. Other than that, I believe the board were really wrong in not sacking LVG sooner (in December for instance). Now we're of course going to wait for after that FA Cup final. But I want LVG out the next day.
For all his brilliance in preparing games, in beating his opponents tactically more often than not (let's aknowledge that!), he has been the least inspired manager I've seen in a long-time. We have been playing like robots for two seasons, apart from the odd series here and there. We have never seen the passion that we saw under SAF. It's like football was just only a job and that no one took pleasure in it. I want to see someone passionate come in. I want us to become winners again, ruthless and hungry for trophies. I want us to be mean when need be. I am sick of watching a team of proper gentlemen respecting the game plan without thinking or fighting further, for themseleves or for the team. It's time to become more aggressive, more direct, more vicious.
Damn it my dream manager this summer would be Simeone. I miss that personality in our club, that desire to fight on every ball for the love of the game and the ethics it embodies. I don't want a team of superstars piled up randomly, I want a team of unified hungry lads who wants to prove a point, just like Leicester have done really. Mourinho may not be everyone's cup of tea, I too have doubts about him in many aspects, but at least he will give the players some confidence back and mostly some hunger and passion that has left our club ever since SAF stepped down.
That being said, LVG's work hasn't been all bad. It's just the human aspect that he is overlooking completely. And it makes such a difference...
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Post by Jie on May 1, 2016 16:02:28 GMT
We had one decent first half, where a truly good team would have scored 3 or 4 past that Leicester team. Then we saw how poor we actually are, when everyone seemed tired and uninspired in the second half, with no leader (either in the managerial staff or on the pitch) to get everyone focused and hungry. The only good thing I'll take from this season is the potential of our youngsters. Other than that, I believe the board were really wrong in not sacking LVG sooner (in December for instance). Now we're of course going to wait for after that FA Cup final. But I want LVG out the next day. For all his brilliance in preparing games, in beating his opponents tactically more often than not (let's aknowledge that!), he has been the least inspired manager I've seen in a long-time. We have been playing like robots for two seasons, apart from the odd series here and there. We have never seen the passion that we saw under SAF. It's like football was just only a job and that no one took pleasure in it. I want to see someone passionate come in. I want us to become winners again, ruthless and hungry for trophies. I want us to be mean when need be. I am sick of watching a team of proper gentlemen respecting the game plan without thinking or fighting further, for themseleves or for the team. It's time to become more aggressive, more direct, more vicious. Damn it my dream manager this summer would be Simeone. I miss that personality in our club, that desire to fight on every ball for the love of the game and the ethics it embodies. I don't want a team of superstars piled up randomly, I want a team of unified hungry lads who wants to prove a point, just like Leicester have done really. Mourinho may not be everyone's cup of tea, I too have doubts about him in many aspects, but at least he will give the players some confidence back and mostly some hunger and passion that has left our club ever since SAF stepped down. That being said, LVG's work hasn't been all bad. It's just the human aspect that he is overlooking completely. And it makes such a difference... Couldn't have said it better Matt. And it's not to discredit Van Gaal in any way, I think people are right when they're saying that we'll be picking the rewards from his reign later on, but then again we're not a club that can be content with even fourth position. One season - fine, but it's the second year and we don't look any better. I guess the rush from the first season wore off and the string of games + the monotonous training and playing style are just wearing our players out. I still think Van Gaal will stay the next season, which doesn't really bring me much comfort for the future. But if he does, he better make sure his season is better than this one. |
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Post by matt on May 1, 2016 19:20:26 GMT
I still think Van Gaal will stay the next season I sincerely hope not. For the first time in so many years (since I follow united weekly/daily actually), I have lost interest in watching United, and even in football and the BPL to some extent. I used to wait for the week end to watch my team play, now I have found myself skipping games entirely, thinking "what the hell are we going to do anyway?" and I was rarely proved wrong this season. It's not the fact that we have struggled to get results as such that bothered me, but really the poor quality of our display, the lack of intensity or efforts to keep me on the edge of my seat. It's been a dull season in so many ways, I can't understand how we could possibly keep LVG, even if we win the FA Cup and even if we finish in the top-4 on top of that. In my opinion, LVG has done a good rebuilding job and he has laid some solid foundations in many aspects, but another season will be one too much I am afraid. I believe we now need someone who will also work on the human side of our football, not just on the tactical one. Many players are ready to move to the next level, they just need that extra bit of confidence, inspiration and responsibilities. LVG will not give them that, he just won't because that's not who he is. |
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Post by Jie on May 1, 2016 19:56:09 GMT
Oh I hope he doesn't stay either, if not for anything but for the sole reason that we would be missing out on Mourinho, which will be a huge mistake. And I know a lot of people don't approve of Mourinho because he doesn't use youth as much (which I think it can be negotiated with him) and he's a dick (yeah), but I think after we finished last season on a high we somehow dismissed the poor performances and this season has been a reality check. Considering the opposition we would be facing next year we would be stupid to miss out on the best manager.
On the other hand, if we stick with Van Gaal, would he be able to guarantee that his rebuilding process will get us into top 4 again? Now in the grand scheme of the club's history the Moyes era and the two years now under Van Gaal are nothing but a blip, and not even a significant one, but I still think we need more assurance of a future if we're going to be sticking with Van Gaal for the entire length of his contract.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 20:19:07 GMT
He's been unlucky with injuries but he hasn't helped himself and I'm absolutely convinced he hasn't got as firm a grasp of them as he should have at this stage. There are pieces missing and it's coming from him and them, a disconnect between them all and that buck stops with him.
Another season may or may not do it, I don't know, history says he's more of a 3 year project manager, do you stick or twist if you know Mourinho is available? ...more than likely twist at this point but they really don't want to.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 20:42:48 GMT
:lol: :lol:
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Post by Kaushik on May 2, 2016 13:33:43 GMT
I don't think he will magically take us to top in the next season. Like Matt said he wont change, he is an arrogant prick.
I actually think we will get worse if he stays for another season, no good player would like to come here if he stays, so we are going to fail in the transfer market. Under LVG most of the Youth players done well and got bad, so I don't think we can count on them for next season. Another season will be too much for the current players as well, most of them should have lost interest in football with his tactics.
3rd season under him is a disaster in the making.
I don't agree with 'he is unlucky with injuries'. I think he played a part in that too, over training and he is the one made this squad paper thin by selling a loads of players.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 14:55:26 GMT
You have no evidence that they've been over trained, and if anything they look under-cooked to me in periods of games, considering the age of the side. Pretty exceptional to get two massive injury periods and have up to 9 out in one, and up to 14 out, in another.
Not quite sure how you think they'll get collectively worse next season either, when the newcomers who arrived this season will have got their first full season behind them and they'll all be reading off the same script when the new season starts. They're not title winning contenders yet but they're not far short with a bit of shrewd purchasing.
Influx of new players with no UCL could be a big issue though, depending who they've got in mind. But in reality I expect him to go if they don't get top 4 anyway.
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