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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:33:24 GMT
Pochettino > Mourinho. Made my mind up, I want Poch
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Post by Red Or Dead on Feb 3, 2016 21:40:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:41:21 GMT
Pretty much sums my reaction up too :lol:
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Post by Ali on Feb 4, 2016 0:14:43 GMT
Can he handle the job
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Post by spens1 on Feb 4, 2016 1:27:35 GMT
well shit. Mou better be developing youth though
if we get more of that dour shit we've been dealing with this season then help us all
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 6:28:06 GMT
I won't buy it until I see Mourinho shaking hands with Fred the Red
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Post by spens1 on Feb 4, 2016 7:56:23 GMT
Would pay good money for fred the red to tackle him and just wail on him with his big fluffy mits whilst mou curls into the fetal position
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Post by Jie on Feb 4, 2016 10:24:48 GMT
If we're going to face Guardiola, Klopp, Pochettino (cause I don't think he's leaving), I'd rather have Mourinho than Giggs. Sure, he's a walking circus but he's a proven winner. And the press conferences would be amazing.
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Post by spens1 on Feb 4, 2016 10:31:09 GMT
but the yoof
also i cringe to think what we could become after 3 years. Inter Milan, Liverpool or worst of all, Leeds........
Mourinho rarely leaves his teams in a good position
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Post by hakam on Feb 4, 2016 13:18:26 GMT
A proven winner is what we need. I agree that developing the youth is a must in the tradition of MU, but this can be arranged with Jose. We need titles. We need the Champion's league. I don't care who does it, but it has to be done.
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Post by matt on Feb 4, 2016 19:31:36 GMT
If we're going to face Guardiola, Klopp, Pochettino (cause I don't think he's leaving), I'd rather have Mourinho than Giggs Indeed. I think too many people are getting emotional. You can't realistically appoint Giggs and expect him to face Guardiola, Klopp, Wenger, Pochettino and whoever Chelsea is buying. Neville is a bright example of why it is important for Giggs to get experience somewhere before being appointed as manager in such a big club. Playing and managing is a completely different thing. Mourinho is not my first choice. But I realise how important this is for us to get a winner in. We're not allowed another transition or adaptation phase if we want to stay at the top as a club. You may think I am exaggerating, but I don't think so. England is about to become the place to be once again, the centre of football, the shift is going to take place, from Spain/Germany to England in 2 or 3 years max, and we do not want to miss it. We must be a top-4 club year in year out or face being left behind on the long-term. Not everyone likes Mourinho (boring antics, and so on), but he is the winner Man United need imo. If we appoint the wrong manager, we're facing some long, painful and dark times ahead imo. No mistake can be made anymore: the board "screwed up" and appointed twice a not-so-ideal manager, they can't get it wrong again. And bar Mourinho and Guardiola who does guarantee you success 99% of the time? |
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Post by Red Or Dead on Feb 4, 2016 20:13:38 GMT
The shift in two or three years from there to here, full agreement, but where will the post-UTD Mourinho be by then as he has shown that he is only as good as three seasons max and then implodes?
Who do we give the mantle to then?
Given his track record we will have a few titles? Mercenaries playing and nothing left when he causes enough hassle to get sent on because he is out of ideas?
Unless he can evolve his childish "it's my ball and I'm going home" attitude and commit himself to a long-term contract and adhere to the UTD way...then I'll pass.
If though in his latter years he can make a commitment (finally) to one club until he retires then I'd be happy to take him, but the Jose we all know and love for now...no way Pedro...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 20:26:01 GMT
Yep, Mourinho is the most short term patch there is out there, I can see the Glazers doing it though. Name over style and substance.
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Post by matt on Feb 4, 2016 22:18:39 GMT
The shift in two or three years from there to here, full agreement, but where will the post-UTD Mourinho be by then as he has shown that he is only as good as three seasons max and then implodes? Who do we give the mantle to then? Given his track record we will have a few titles? Mercenaries playing and nothing left when he causes enough hassle to get sent on because he is out of ideas? Unless he can evolve his childish "it's my ball and I'm going home" attitude and commit himself to a long-term contract and adhere to the UTD way...then I'll pass. If though in his latter years he can make a commitment (finally) to one club until he retires then I'd be happy to take him, but the Jose we all know and love for now...no way Pedro... You're right in what you say. Can't argue with that and give objective arguments because what you say is based on previous facts. I just get a personal feeling that Mourinho wouldn't be his usual self at United. I am sure he would show more restraint, as he respects this club and SAF a lot more than he does for many, if not for all other clubs. Besides, what club is there left for Mourinho to manage? Madrid: done, Chelsea: done, Inter: done. He hasn't gone to Germany yet, but he ain't getting Bayern soon. Klopp is meant to be at Pool for another few years, he will never join Arsenal, I doubt he will go back to Chelsea, he will never go to Barca, perhaps Atletico if Simeone moves on, perhaps a rebuilding club like AC Milan (though I doubt it because he left Inter in good terms), or we get Pochettino and Mou joins Spurs(doubtful)? but that's about it really. Or perhaps PSG if we get Blanc (in which case it's even better). Somehow it looks like Mourinho and United are bound to work with each other at this point. It's funny because many people say he will leave after 3 years. Perhaps he will, perhaps he won't. But SAF retired less than three years ago, and look how we have struggled and how long that time seemed. Anyway, we can't afford another slip, another transition. The next manager must not win silwerware at all price imo, but keep us at the very top among that group of teams who are "untouchable". It's too risky to expect Giggs to do that, especially in this time of English football when a lot will happen in the next couple of seasons that will decide many things in this league. I am not necessarily that keen on Mourinho, but I am just trying to get realistic as we have next to zero option. If we appoint Giggs, it could work, but the chances it works, while all our rivals will be in good dynamics is madness for a club the size of United. If we were planning on giving it to Giggs, we would have given him already and see how he could do till the end of the season. There was no point keeping LVG a few weeks ago then. Does anyone think that Jose could join after we have played Chelsea? Perhaps he didn't want to face his former side this season? Especially at the Bridge? |
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Post by Red Or Dead on Feb 5, 2016 9:19:01 GMT
I'll take him for his ability to win things which is what we need at the moment, but what we don't need is the entourage of theatrics and idiotic paranoia that comes with him.
If in his older days he can mature enough to realise that this place is so much more than just another football club and not just something to add to his CV.
We have a history here and an establishment with an ethos that nobody is ever gonna be bigger than the entity that is Manchester United,not even the special one.
If we can drill this respect into him of what he is actually representing here beforehand and he can agree to stay more than his usual three seasons to project long-term stability to the club's future success, then I'll open the door myself for him at Old Trafford.
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