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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 12:53:29 GMT
Let's see how we can fuck this up ...with a half empty stadium :lol: |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 18:20:09 GMT
Man Utd
De Gea, Valencia, Smalling, Bailly, Shaw, Pogba, Fellaini, Matic, Rashford, Lukaku, Sanchez
Subs: Romero, Darmian, Lindelof, Fred, Mata, McTominay, Martial
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Post by Hammy on Oct 2, 2018 22:17:19 GMT
Another disgusting interview from Mou. Another dig at Ed and his players which hopefully should put another nail in his coffin.
The match itself was the same old shit. Thought we started the first 15 minutes with a good intensity that been missing for a while but then reverted back to the norm.
I used to think Lukaku was professional even if his form was a bit eratic but after watching him tonight I'm changing my mind. Lazy fuck that needs to learn how to run into channels which for a forward playing for a top (said with tongue in cheek) club is embarrassing.
When Matic came to the club I wasn't too sure about him. His first season at Chelski he was phenomenal but then his form dipped considerably. He started like a house on fire for us but now I'm at the point were I don't care if he stays or goes.
The less said about Sanchez the better although he does put a shift in. Valencia needs to be put into a retirement home.
Rashford did ok tonight but he doesn't look like he has a football brain. With him it's a case of I'm fast let's see what happens. No intelligence what so ever.
The only shining light for me this season has been Shaw. Getting stronger every game. In fact if I was asked to pick the best United players for a game I'd be playing 2 aside, maybe 3 because only Shaw and DDG and maybe Pereira would feature. All the rest are shite, passed it or couldn't give a fuck about the club. Sad state of affairs indeed.
Only 1 sub used which when we're drawing 0-0 at home with a team thats only won 1 game all season says that mou doesn't just mistrust Ed, the board, the defence, midfield players and attackers but also his subs. The writing should be on the wall but is it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 22:27:33 GMT
I think it's that fucked at the top that they'll keep him here till the end of the season because it costs more to sack him and they'll bank on him failing to reach top 4.
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Post by Dave on Oct 3, 2018 12:33:10 GMT
He is gone, every man and his dog knows it, just a question of when and in the meantime he'll fling as much shit as he can.
Tough run of fixtures coming up so hopefully the club wake up and smell the coffee before we're in a relegation battle.
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Post by spens1 on Oct 4, 2018 3:24:09 GMT
I think it's that fucked at the top that they'll keep him here till the end of the season because it costs more to sack him and they'll bank on him failing to reach top 4. Missing out on champions league would cost a lot more than Jose's buyout i'd suspect. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 9:23:19 GMT
UCL group money is already banked and is roughly equivalent to what you'd have to pay out to get rid of Mourinho, anything after is 'potential' gravy.
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Post by spens1 on Oct 5, 2018 1:12:41 GMT
UCL group money is already banked and is roughly equivalent to what you'd have to pay out to get rid of Mourinho, anything after is 'potential' gravy. I mean UCL money for next season which we wouldn't get. Also another season without champions league would be a disgrace, we just started qualifying for it again. |
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Post by Hammy on Oct 5, 2018 9:59:26 GMT
The problem (??) With us is we're just a Huge cash cow. If I remember correctly when we didn't qualify for the CL we actually increased our revenue. The fuckers in charge obviously aren't footballing men but money men. As long as the revenue keeps going up thats all they care about. Their short term thinking is doesn't matter if we don't qualify we'll just get more sponsors to cover the deficit.
Moaninho is a brand in himself. Albeit a toxic one. But it makes it easier for the club to earn more money off him than it would be if we appointed someone like Eddie Howe for example. And if the things get so bad the leeching fuckers can just sell the club for a couple of billion and leave us in the shit for the next 20 years. Win win for them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 15:14:39 GMT
And this is why I won't set foot in OT / hand coin over... City’s supremacy, of course, has been facilitated by the extraordinary £1.3bn Mansour has spent on City since 2008, most of it on paying huge transfer fees and wages for players. But if there is one club besides Roman Abramovich’s Chelsea which cannot validly complain that it has been disadvantaged by this Abu Dhabi investment, it is United. The Glazers’ takeover has in fact drained out of United more than £1bn in interest, costs, fees and dividends since 2005, not too far off the amount Mansour has invested into City. United continue to financially serve the Glazers every year. United published their latest accounts last week, with the football world agog at the then-latest episode in the war of the grumps between Mourinho and Paul Pogba, his under-performing stellar player. It showed record income of £590m – still a lot more money than City’s £500m – for the operation of selling strata of sponsorships, which Woodward minted after he moved from the bank JP Morgan to United’s Mayfair office in 2005. The accounts also showed that United’s borrowings remain at £487m from the Glazer takeover, which Woodward was instrumental in structuring with £525m debts loaded on to the club, including £275m high interest “payment in kind” loans. This debt is more than financially manageable now after Ferguson’s successes saw United through the early Glazer years of eye-watering payments, but the 2017-18 finance costs were still £24m. That could have helped pay for one of the players Woodward refused as short-term fixes on cost grounds. The six Glazer siblings who collectively own 97% of United’s voting shares were paid approximately $23m (£18m) in dividends, the third year dividends have been paid. The total paid to them and the other financial investors was £22m, following £23m in 2016-17 and £20m the previous year, a total of £65m out of the club. The salary packages paid to directors and senior executives, which includes the six Glazers, was £13m, following £12m in 2016-17 and £11m the year before. A year ago, the Glazers’ holding company, Red Football, sold 4.3m shares in Cayman Islands-registered United, for $17 per share. That is a further $73m (£56m) made by the Glazers from their heavily leveraged acquisition of a football institution. Pogba, a World Cup winner for France, hankers after the freedom to play with more elan; Mourinho sulks about Pogba, being denied a defender and Woodward not supporting him publicly to assert his managerial authority. These, though, are only the most visible symptoms of a cultural dislocation which radiates from the top in New York and Old Trafford, via the Cayman Islands. www.theguardian.com/football/2018/oct/04/glazers-manchester-united?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other |
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Post by Hammy on Oct 5, 2018 19:10:39 GMT
Good, informative but depressing read. Yankers Bought the club for 525m 13 years ago and we still owe 487m. Basically they're paying off about 3m a year when the running costs of the debt are about 25m a year.
Wish I could find someone to give me a loan and get some other mug to pay it off while I'm lighting my cigars with 50 quid notes.
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