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Post by spens1 on Aug 1, 2018 2:24:06 GMT
Rojo to Wolves for £25m or Everton £30m? That's daylight robbery, so do it please! Get Maguire in. CB solved. Then go all out for Pulisic, seems the only RW left that fits Uniteds profile (not Moaninho's unfortunately). He's not ready made and will take some time to develop but hey, we won't win anything next season anyway. Build a new team, not buy it with solely ready-made players! I don't see us getting a proper LB. All hopes are with Dalot then or Shaw making a big, big surprise turnaround. Is Harry Maguire the best we can do. I agree with Pulisic but he'd cost us 100 mill. I agree though with the premise though.
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Post by germanc18 on Aug 1, 2018 9:36:47 GMT
Maguire surely isn't the best but neither is Alderweireld. Of them two (or say 3 with Mina) its Maguire for me. They offer similar qualities plus Maguire is far better in the air and the better defender. Toby might be a little better passer but not sure. At least his pass success rate is higher. Could also mean he's taking less risks. Smalling has a better pass success rate then both and can't fucking pass at all. Despite Maguire having lower % for pass completion, he manages more key passes and more created chances than Toby. Maguire also significantly better at Interceptions. Therefore and given his age and being english as well, my pick is Maguire.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 14:45:14 GMT
I'd go Maguire all day long out of those two....but the price for either is going to be insane. For that money you should be buying Ramos quality and experience, which is actually what is needed.
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Post by Dave on Aug 1, 2018 18:28:21 GMT
Alderweireld ticks all the boxes for me, only issue is that he had very little football last season but the past seasons he’s been the best defender in the PL. He has the experience, leadership and the passing ability which are all qualities our defence lacks. We need either the finished article or pretty close to it, so Maguire wouldn’t be a bad alternative but it’s just daft that we didn’t bring him in last season and spunked on Lindelof, now we’ll be paying something ridiculous if we want him. In terms of on the ball, Alderweireld is better at long range passing, they are probably around equal on short and passing between the lines but Maguire is very good at driving forward and dribbling though how much of that Mourinho would allow I’m not sure and he’s not the quickest at getting back. Mina isn’t worth mentioning and would be pure stupidity. Anyways we’ll be signing Alderweireld for 40-50m on deadline day
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Post by Dave on Aug 2, 2018 19:06:18 GMT
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Post by spens1 on Aug 5, 2018 0:20:07 GMT
I mean he's been on loan so many times at some point surely we have to bring him into the fold.
Anyway are we aiming for Europa league or something, cause that's where we'll end up this season without a CB signing (hell, without a right winger or some other position being bolstered we're not finishing in the top 3).
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Post by germanc18 on Aug 6, 2018 7:16:16 GMT
Fosu-Mensah on loan to Hertha Berlin? What the fuck is Moaninho smoking? Fucking sell Darmian and play him instead. He's not only more talented I also doubt that at this stage of his development, he is at least at the same level as Darmian and will only get better!
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Post by Dave on Aug 6, 2018 20:43:40 GMT
They both need games and with De Gea here and Mourinho constantly buying defenders neither will get anywhere near enough. I’m not really struck on Pereira think Henderson has more about him but time will tell.
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Post by spens1 on Aug 7, 2018 2:31:13 GMT
Fosu Mensah going on loan to Germany wouldn't be terrible for him actually. It is a good Bundesliga club and him starting there would do him some good.
Also we're linked with Jerome Boateng and Jose Gimminez now (either one would be a great replacement for Rojo and a big upgrade). Boateng especially would be fantastic because we need a proper leader at the back and a world class CB (which he still is).
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Post by germanc18 on Aug 7, 2018 7:02:15 GMT
right, better TFM plays for Hertha than is unused here. I think we should sell Darmian and give TFM game time in the league. Slowly and step by step taking over from Valencia and some games mabe ac CB when we play 3 at the back. Plenty of possibility to give him game time here. With Moaninho being our manager I know this is a not a realistic szenario. He would rather bring Neville out of retirement than develop a young player.
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Post by germanc18 on Aug 7, 2018 12:52:50 GMT
Haha...deadline day is approaching fast, wtf are they smoking in those offices? Pogba to Barca, Mata to Inter, Fekir and Dembele to United, SMS loaned for 30m with obligation to pay next summer.
A contest who writes the biggest bullshit.
I think we sign Alderweireld and that's it then. Hope we don't lose crucial players to reuopean clubs after our deadline. Time Europe adapats also to closing before the first game!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 14:48:18 GMT
They've had ample time to sell at least one CB to recoup some money to facilitate an Alderweireld deal. Hell, sell two or even three CBs and get Alderweireld and Maguire in. This doesn't look good from any angle.
Should have got rid of Rojo, Jones, Smalling. Kept Bailly, Lindelof with Alderweireld and Maguire in. How hard is that??
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Post by Dave on Aug 7, 2018 20:22:31 GMT
Sell three defenders but only bring two in? Mourinho would walk :lol:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 20:30:26 GMT
I thought I was pushing it when I wrote it, fair enough, keep Smalling then. :lol:
I'm sure you'd get your money back on Rojo, Jones, in this market, who knows.
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Post by spens1 on Aug 8, 2018 0:25:09 GMT
Sell three defenders but only bring two in? Mourinho would walk Good, that would be the only good thing to have come from this window.
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